I did this exercise with my older brother who has been in law enforcement for over 40 years. The topic was plant based medicine. DMT, psilocybin are considered class 1 narcotics and illegal in the US. From the perspective of Law Enforcement, the use of either therapeutic or recreational is unlawful. The reference to "drugs" versus "medicine" is the foundational difference. By law the use of these resources are unlawful and yet the evidence supports therapeutic value for PTSD, Depression, Anxiety, Palliative Care and on and on.

I listened with the intent of understanding how he has dedicated his life to fighting the criminal side of drugs and at one point was under cover working for the DEA..

I do have a greater understanding for his POV and I am also a advocate of the use of these medicines with a skilled therapist or spiritual guide.

This is a picture of the Amazon Jungle from a retreat this year.